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Guppies, garnaaltjes?

Berichtdoor Eddie » 06 feb 2010 15:30

Is het mogelijk om een paar guppies bij dwergkogeltjes te houden? Of worden ze zeker weten opgegeten?
Anders is het wel duur voer ( en het is zielig) :(

Het aquarium is 60 liter met 3 kogelvissen. Er zitten al 5 barbeeltjes in maar die komen te verhuizen i.v.m het feit dat ze iets te groot worden voor mun bakkie.

En dan nog garnaaltjes.
Ik was van plan ook nog een paar vuurgarnaaltjes in te doen. Zelfde vraag: duur voer of goede match?
( En dan maakt het niet uit of er 1 wordt opgegeten, het moet niet zijn dat er elke dag meer garnaaltjes verdwijnen )

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Re: Guppies??Garnaaltjes??

Berichtdoor Nina » 06 feb 2010 18:20

Guppen worden ook nog behoorlijk groot hoor. Als je er visjes bij wilt houden zou ik voor een kleiner blijvende soort gaan.
Bijvoorbeeld robijntetra's of zo..

Vuurgarnaaltjes zijn leuk! Zorg dat je met een groep van toch minstens een stuk of 15 begint. Het gebeurt wel eens dat dwergjes ook volwassen garnalen pakken, maar meestal worden alleen de kleintjes opgesnoept. Als je voldoende schuilplaatsen hebt, van bijvoorbeeld javamos, overleven er vast ook wel wat jonkies
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Re: Guppies??Garnaaltjes??

Berichtdoor Robin » 06 feb 2010 21:30

Al aan otocinclus en kuhli's gedacht?
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Re: Guppies, garnaaltjes?

Berichtdoor Nanda » 07 feb 2010 17:12

Ben het inderdaad een beetje meer met Robin eens..
Guppen en tetra's is geen doen. Guppen kweken teveel waardoor de jonkies per direct opgegeten zullen worden, wat niet goed is voor het dwergje.

Vis is te vet voedsel voor een kogelvis. Niet doen dus.
Tetra's gingen bij mij niet goed net als vuurgarnalen, waren lekkere hapjes... :).
Daarbij komt dat drukke vissen het gedrag van je dwergje beïnvloed, deze zal zich onnatuurlijk gaan gedragen, en meer stress tonen.

Kuhli's gaan bij mij in ieder geval nu het langste goed... alhoewel ik al wel een half opgegeten Kuhli heb moeten verwijderen. :(

Het ligt een beetje aan je dwergjes ook... Hoe agressief zijn ze etc?
Vuurgarnalen kunnen wel goed gaan het is een beetje testen...

Overigens vindt ik 60 liter met drie kogelvissen wel een maximale bezetting. Zou de bak rustig houden en als je er persee iets bij wilt garnalen of Kuhli's proberen... :)

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Re: Guppies, garnaaltjes?

Berichtdoor Essie » 08 feb 2010 14:53

Rhinogobius wui kunnen ook, grappige beestjes. Ze hebben wel iets van steen of hout nodig om een hol onder te graven!
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Re: Guppies, garnaaltjes?

Berichtdoor Marc » 08 feb 2010 16:38

Rhino's zijn inderdaad erg grappig om erbij te hebben, levert bij mij in ieder geval totaal geen problemen op. Ze zitten voornamelijk op de bodem, komen heel af en toe even ietsje hoger om een muggenlarf te pakken die op een blad is blijven hangen.

Garnaaltjes kunnen goed bij dwergjes, mits je met een aantal volwassen exemplaren begint. Ze kweken als konijnen, dus er blijven er altijd wel een paar leven als er voldoende schuilmogelijkheden zijn.

Overigens, Rhino's en garnaaltjes gaan NIET samen. Of toch, maar dan niet al te lang ;)
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Re: Guppies, garnaaltjes?

Berichtdoor Nina » 08 feb 2010 19:12

Hmmm is dat de reden dat ik minder garnaaltjes zie dat eerst :grin Al laten de rhino's de grotere garnaaltjes toch wel met rust volgens mij..
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Re: Guppies, garnaaltjes?

Berichtdoor Marc » 08 feb 2010 19:42

Dat dacht ik ook. Maar elk garnaaltje moet een keertje vervellen. En dan slaan de rhinootjes dus toe. Je moet maar 's kijken hoe ver zo'n klein bekkie open kan!
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Re: Guppies, garnaaltjes?

Berichtdoor Eddie » 09 feb 2010 15:51

Een dag zonder kogelvis is een dag niet geleefd!
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Re: Guppies, garnaaltjes?

Berichtdoor Marc » 09 feb 2010 16:56

L-nummers en garnaaltjes gaan goed samen, die laten elkaar wel met rust. Dat is niet zo'n probleem. Maar een L-nummer die niet groter wordt dan 6cm? Die moet ik nog tegenkomen. En twee van die jongens op 60cm plus 3 kogeltjes wordt wel wat veel, wat betreft de bio-load. Als je het mij vraagt...

En als je toch heel graag garnaaltjes wilt, zou je 's moeten kijken naar de multidentata's (vroeger japonica). Daar heb ik een stuk of zeven volwassen exemplaren van zitten bij m'n dwergjes en rhinootjes. En die zitten er nog steeds ;) Nadeel is alleen dat ze wat duurder zijn en niet kweken in zoet-water.
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