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Dwergkogeltjes

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Re: Dwergkogeltjes

Berichtdoor Lode » 29 jun 2015 14:35

Kaamlaag kan dan prima door het hout komen. Gewoon af en toe weghalen. Hoe ruikt het water?
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Re: Dwergkogeltjes

Berichtdoor Juliette » 29 jun 2015 15:01

Denk niet dat je nog een nitrietpiek krijgt hoor tenzij je ineens je bak gaat overbevolken. Je hebt wel bacteriën in je filter maar die beginnen langzaam af te sterven bij gebrek aan voedsel.

Je kan met beleid en goed in de gaten houden gewoon vissen uit gaan zetten.

Kamlaag kan ook komen door het hout als dat aan het schimmelen is.
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Re: Dwergkogeltjes

Berichtdoor Marloes » 29 jun 2015 15:57

Het water ruikt verder gewoon normaal. Als ik de kaamlaag gewoon om de paar dagen weg haal, kan ik de schimmel op het hout dan gewoon laten zitten? En dan moet ik misschien inderdaad gewoon beginnen met vissen uitzetten. Dan kunnen als eerste de algeneters erin om die bruin alg op te eten. :2thumbs Of ik zet eerst een klein groepje garnalen uit.

De nitraatwaarde was ook best laag. Maakt dat nog uit of komt dat vanzelf als je vissen/ garnalen uit gaat zetten? En bedankt voor alle hulp!
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Re: Dwergkogeltjes

Berichtdoor Juliette » 29 jun 2015 16:18

Beter om de kamlaag elke dag even te verwijderen omdat hij ook de zuurstofuitwisseling moeilijker maakt.

Schimmel kan je laten zitten zolang het niet uit de hand loopt.

Wat voor algeneters wil je gaan houden. Die zou ik samen met de garnalen uitzetten en als je water goed blijft de kogeltjes erbij doen.
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Re: Dwergkogeltjes

Berichtdoor Marloes » 29 jun 2015 18:47

Dan zal ik de laag elke dag even verwijderen :left thumb

Ik wil er graag oto's bijhouden. Ik had gelezen dat dit vaak wel goed gaat met dwergkogeltjes. Zit er eigenlijk nog veel verschil tussen de otocinclus affinis en de otocinclus vittatus?

Hoe groot zouden jullie de groep garnalen maken als je ze tegelijk uitzet met de oto's? Ik weet dat een redelijk grote groep het beste is, maar ik wil de bacteriën natuurlijk niet gelijk teveel belasten. Ik neem aan dat je, als alles goed gaat, er later nog wat bij kan zetten?
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Re: Dwergkogeltjes

Berichtdoor Juliette » 29 jun 2015 19:40

Garnaaltjes zijn verre van een belasting voor je systeem. Ze zijn eerder een meerwaarde. Afhankelijk van de grootte zou ik een groepje van 20 tot 30 garnalen uitzetten.

Ja oto's zijn super leuk met dwergjes en ik heb die combi ook meerdere keren succesvol gehad tot nakweek van de oto's aan toe. Oto's zijn wel hele gevoelige visjes en ik zou ze in dit geval juist als laatste in de bak doen. Verschil is alleen te zien als je weet waar je naar moet kijken en heel vaak zitten ze ook onder de verkeerde naam of gemengd in de winkel. Tenzij je wilt kweken zou ik me er niet druk over maken.
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Re: Dwergkogeltjes

Berichtdoor Lode » 01 jul 2015 02:02

Schimmel heeft niks met de kaamlaag te maken. Het is in dit geval waarschijnlijk meer de looizuren en andere troep die vrijkomt uit het nieuwe hout. Schimmel zou ik zoveel mogelijk weghalen, maar niet al te druk om maken als het beperkt is en afneemt. Kaamlaag kan je trouwens ook wat verstoren door de uitstroom van het filter slim te plaatsen.

Heb je tijdens de opstart wat voer in de bak laten rotten? Dit is belangrijk om de boel op gang te krijgen. Mocht je de nitrietpiek hebben gemist zie je dit ook door de nitraat waarde die omhoog gaat :)
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Re: Dwergkogeltjes

Berichtdoor Marloes » 01 jul 2015 13:34

Morgen komen de eerste garnaaltjes erin. :D Hopen dat dan alles goed gaat zodat de dwergkogeltjes er daarna in kunnen. :)

Ik heb vandaag de schimmel zoveel mogelijk geprobeerd weg te halen. Ook had ik de filteruitlaat alweer wat meer omhoog gericht, zodat het wateroppervlak beweegt. Ik heb tijdens de opstart van de bak dus niks laten rotten, ik kom er nu pas achter dat dat nodig was. :( Ik heb wel superveel gelezen, maar ben dat nooit echt ergens tegengekomen. :oo Op zich is het nu heel logisch, maar ja beginnersfout denk ik. :hands
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Re: Dwergkogeltjes

Berichtdoor Nanda » 03 jul 2015 14:02

Zo leren we elke dag weer bij.

Hoe gaat t nu met je bak?
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Re: Dwergkogeltjes

Berichtdoor Marloes » 06 jul 2015 18:32

Het gaat wel goed gelukkig. :) Met de garnaaltjes gaat alles goed, ze hebben de alg mooi opgegeten. :2thumbs Ik ga van de week waarschijnlijk de oto's halen. De kaamlaag is er wel nog steeds, maar die is volgens mij wel minder.
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